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Yep, it's an old patch, and just after posted I realised it couldn't possibly do what I'd thought it did. If you use short echoes and lower values for MORPH it should also be fun, and at least show how I managed to fool myself. back to the drawing board then andy mark francombe wrote: > OK tried it... very interesting... but it doesnt really work as you > explained.. it didnt really jump in pitch... remember its NOT a delay > changing speed here, (one drawback of the vortex is that it wont do that > actually... bout the only thing it wont do however.. makes a lovely > cupper...) its a pitch change thru modulation... no this is more like a > rapid pitch squelch.. which made a really cool rythmic effect actually... > thanks Andy... >