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Here's what the manual says about Undo: 10.9 Undo (Redo) - Assignable to either Bonus button & controlled by a tap or hold Mute the last part stacked on a loop (Undo) - After stacking, press Undo and the last sounds stacked will be removed from the loop, and Undo will blink slow. The "last sounds stacked" is defined as all recorded sounds between two presses of Stack. Restore a muted part (Redo) - Press Undo while it is blinking and the part is restored so it is heard again. Undo stops blinking. When Undo/Redo won't work. 1) If the stack function is used again, the previously stacked part can no longer be disabled or enabled. A) If Undo is NOT blinking when stack is used again, the previously stacked part becomes a permanent part of its loop. B) If Undo is blinking when stack is used again, the previously stacked part is lost and cannot be recovered. Undo stops blinking. 2) If stacking is active and you move from one loop to another, the material stacked on the first loop becomes permanent and cannot be "undone." The Undo function now applies to what you are stacking on the second loop. 3) If a part is stacked while Undo is not assigned to a Bonus button, the part will not respond to Undo if it is assigned later. NOTE - The last stacked part can still be turned on or off after playing or recording other loops. ===== One of the Rang's "optional behaviors" is to change the way it handles loop boundaries in order to enable seamless drones. ===== You can see the whole Rang' manual here: http://www.boomerangmusic.com/E-156%20eManual%20Version2.pdf ===== The "sidecar" which will allow direct access of all features is looking like a reality. Mike Nelson talks about it here: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/02/boomerang-iii-is-the-live-looper-box-t exas-made-great-video-tutorials/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_c ampaign=Feed%3A+createdigitalmusic+%28createdigitalmusic.com%29&utm_content= Bloglines and there's what looks like an artist's rendering as well. Hope this helps. hoby -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hamburg [mailto:mark@grubmah.com] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 2:58 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 OR RANG 3 I don't have a Rang, but I've looked at it in my potential drive away from rack effects. Two interesting points that those with Rangs should confirm. One good. One not so good. Good: Per loop undo. Which means that in some sense you have up to 8 loops available (and in the normal configuration) 6 loops. It's just that only 4 or 3 of them can be playing at a time. Not so good: The Rang has a sound dip at the recording point to make some loops more seamless but I would imagine that this would interfere with delay tails and ambient drones. There are work arounds but these can involve things like recording a blank loop first. There's also the frustration that it offers lots of options but the control surface doesn't have enough buttons to handle them all. There is supposedly an expander box coming. Mark