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Re: A while back.....



 Please don't any body drop off of this wonderful list because of
something I said!

Nah Dan... Fuck music.. Im just here for the knob twiddling... no
really... music for me has been a marriage of sound and technology for
years.. being able to play a few scales and hold down a few chords has
never done it for me... guitar wasnt guitar till I discovered
distortion and delay...

Basicaly my instrument is looping, luckily I discovered it pretty
early, and that has always involved some kinda technology. I think its
interesting what other people are doing with new technology, but I
cant move that fast, I would be broke, AND I would never get any of my
music done, I would be reading too many manuals and configering
drivers...
This list is not a great big gear advert to me.. its a community of
people that understand what I do... thats refreshing, because it gives
me someone to talk to... as for playing live, I dont care if they
understand or not... actually I prefer not...
Anyone had that "That was great man, but I shame you had to have some
stuff on tape" ... then you get to say

"No tape here... just played live"

I love that...
 heh heh


but hey.. be careful in those caves Andy!

Mark



On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> 
wrote:
>> I myself am seeing this to the point of
>> maybe even signing off this list for a while
>
> OH!!!   Ouch!   Damn!  I have lurked on this list for long-- Keeping my 
>trap shut.  And now, I pop up few times with some dumb chit and artists 
>start dropping off  !!
>> At some point, I think you have to look at the raw reality of the fact
>> that maybe my/your/our fascination with another glitch or knob or pedal
>> or VST or HDWR is really just an excuse not to be making, growing and
>> learning about our actual music.  apologize all around, really.
>
>
> I know what you mean when you say you just need to get the music out 
>there.  And its true that technology pursuit can derail the focus on 
>creative expression.  I have this artistic struggle myself--  I suspect 
>many here do .  I believe its a left brain right brain thing-- like all 
>musicianship.  Think about it.  Your capacity to play your instrument, 
>sing in key, control timbre, write a good song, book and promote, set up 
>the PA to sound good at the gig-- all this stuff is developed through 
>arduous self discipline, trial and error, return to bat again an again.
>
> The people on this list who really know me can vouch for the weird 
>absence of my solo work in a sizable body of released recordings.  An 
>endless cycle of innovation opportunity and challenge is certainly one of 
>the reasons that my own album is not in my catalog--I want to break new 
>ground with any personal artistic statement that I make....  Well, I am 
>no pup any more.  It recently occurred to me that I might be mortal after 
>all.  And with this humbling notion came the certainty the only real 
>ground that need be broken in order to truly innovate is within.  Whether 
>I play a ten can and a string or a complex looping rig.
>
> Still the range of my expression when playing tin can... leaves 
>something to be desired.
>
> Right now, I am giving a lot more time to my right brain-- writing with 
>the lap steel and acoustic guitar, singing, writing lyrics and songs--- 
>But this is not at the expense of my looping pursuit. It is in 
>compliment. The songs I am writing and the potent production methods I 
>follow are informed by the ten thousand hours of technical discipline 
>that precedes my creativity.  I think what I am saying is, the pendulum 
>swings.  Go open you creative dam and let it flow-- but don't sell your 
>rig.  It will come back around.
>
> And with that-- I am shutting up.
>
> Please don't any body drop off of this wonderful list because of 
>something I said!
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Andy Owens wrote:
>
>> ......Daniel T said.....
>>
>>
>> "No matter what your platform, (i prefer them all :)  the price of
>> admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often
>> high.  Thats not to say that you can't make great looping art with a
>> delay pedal, but if you want to innovate performance workflows that
>> facilitate your own compositional style, you may have to buck up the
>> midnight oil in a very big way.  I certainly have had to pay a lot of
>> dues to the "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on any
>> looping platform...HW or SW."
>>
>>
>>
>> I just wanted to say, man that is some smart sh_t right there!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> DT if you ever start a commune or something dude I am in.
>>
>> At some point, I think you have to look at the raw reality of the fact
>> that maybe my/your/our fascination with another glitch or knob or pedal
>> or VST or HDWR is really just an excuse not to be making, growing and
>> learning about our actual music. I myself am seeing this to the point of
>> maybe even signing off this list for a while, not because I don't love
>> ya'll, best list I was ever on, but I gotta move on and make some music
>> out in that scary non=looping understanding world!!!!
>>
>> So, I'm going out, out of the closet, out of the basement, into the
>> storm!!!! Will let ya'll know how it works out, I am anxious to get your
>> opinions on what I am gonna be doin.
>>
>> BUT first to a trade show in Boston (clams clams clams clams please tell
>> me they are in season!!!) then cave diving in Mexico Yucatan Peninsula
>> for ten days. Anybody looping in Boston next week let me know
>> Tues/Weds/Thurs nights will be there.
>>
>> So if I get lost in a deep dark cave ya'll can raffle off my rig, you're
>> the only ones that could ever figure it out anyway!!!
>>
>> Andy Owens
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



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