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Ahh we seem to wok along similar lines... I don't really see the octatrack as an "MPC on Steriods" I haven't seen any sensible way to live sample and replay on a MPC. I think an MPC could be a complement to the octatrack. The machine can do a whole lot of cool sequencer tricks, all from applying different effects settings on different steps to pitch shifting and rate change per step. Evan Slicing a sample an trigg different samples on each step.. so on track could for example first use recorder 1 then slice that, play different slices with all sorts of different settings on each step and even have some steps play from an other recorder that records in real time...
I see the octatrack almost as synth where my guitar is the oscillator. My work flow usually is - Decide if I want i through track which i use if i don mike an amp, if I mike an amp i spit the signal so that i can record the direct signal separately on my Zoom - Decide if I want some canned loops, if yes I load them to a track and tweak them -Check the recorders and set them to some different length, usually 1 or long (64 steps) some 16 steps and often one or two really short, perhaps 4 steps - set playback length for each track, usually same as recording length, but i have used 5,17 or 19 on some track while some other are on the usual 16, 32 or 64 steps (this creates poly rhythm) - sett the initial effects per track -some times set scee effects for the crossfader In all it take perhaps 5 minutes. I have now saved a few projects which i can start tweaking from.. if i were to play live iI would use all preset project, changing projects takes a few seconds.. Not that different from your mobius flow.. Of to the cottage now I will be back on Sunday... Greetings from Trångsund.. > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:59:42 +0200 > Subject: Re: What is looping .... was _MUSIC - "D Torn Kaisers Aars E.T." tríbute to some heroes > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > I tend to agree with Anders here, that it surprises me that so few > list members are utilizing sequencing techniques. This because > sequencing technique relies on the same craft in applied music theory > as a lot of the minimal art music and progressive rock by for example > King Crimson. > > The Electron seems very cool to me, but I'm not sure I need all those > functions for live work. It seems to be a modern "MPC on steroids"! > Not sure I would be able to make use of all its features for live work > though. In fact, my own most successful periods in live music making > has happened when I have reduced my options to a handful gestures at > hand. The ability to perform is vulnerable to the balance between > being able to keep a flow over time in the instant composing process > and having powerful sound shaping tools. > > I look at much of my live looping in Mobius as "sequencing > techniques". My "palette" is a number of optional "grids" I can apply > to a number of bars and each grid is like a sequence - but it lets > through live played source audio to be sampled into a loop (rather > than driving source audio as the synthesizer sequencing). So the > process is: > > 1) Chose and apply a "sequence grid" (Mobius script at hand). > 2) Make some source audio on your instrument. > 3) By adjust a fader for "Secondary Feedback" your control how much of > the earlier loop layers will be replaced by the new audio coming in > through the grid. > > With this technique you can effectively build up machine tight > sequences in seconds from any live played audio instrument or noise. > BTW, here a simple example of this "grid sequencing live looping" in > the form of a Mobius flute improvisation: > http://soundcloud.com/pboy/going-fishing-20090524-1312 > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > |