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I'd be tempted to sell you my Chilidog at $20 but I'm starting to think mine is damaged or something. I can't believe such a crap pedal, in my opinion, would get such ringing endorsements from much better musicians than I. I tend to favor crap over good stuff but it failed me miserably. All I know is with my POG pedal and my sansamp it matters not that I'm backing someone on "bass" by using a $50 fretless minstrel (baritone) banjo. It sounds pretty good. It beats lugging around my stupid upright in my Miata. Which looks so silly it's often fun to do anyway. As you pointed out, it's handling only one note at a time. Maybe that is why I like the POG so much. Not to much "chording" in my basslines on that gut string minstrel banjo. Lol This list is such a great source of knowledge. Chaz Worm - singer, bass, banjo Earth, Worm, &, Fire and Electric Light Opry http://ChazWorm.com http://ELOpry.com http://HankZeppelin.com http://YouTube.com/ChazWorm On Nov 28, 2011, at 7:33 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Rick Walker wrote: >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, chaz worm wrote: >>> For harmony shifting I love my electro harmonic POG pedal.=20 >> I love my micro POG, too, but I have to say that the caveat here is >> that it is synthesizing the pitches NOT harmonizing them from >> everything I've been told and from everything I've heard. > > It does use harmonizer type algorithms. > > A harmonizer breaks the sound up into little chunks > and plays each chunk back at a shifted rate. > > Large chunk sizes sound more natural, but create > more latency...and unevenness on percussive sounds. > > The EH harmonisers use a small chunk size, and > match it to the pitch of the input. > By doing this they get very low latency on downward shifts. > ...but it gives a digi-edge to the sound, and perhaps > it's not that far off so call it re-synthesis. > > > The EH harmonizers claim to work with polyphonic input, > but only cope with the simplest harmonies. > > > Rick Walker wrote: >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: >>> I use the Octave Multiplexer all the time, no delay. > >> not familiar with that one, Andy..........who makes it? > > Electro Harmonix Octave Multiplexer. > > This does produce a synthetic output, and it's > single note only. > > ...but it feels something like a real bass to me, > whether I'm using it on guitar or lending it to > Stephen Scott while I'm trying to play drums. > > I reckon part of what makes it good is that the volume of the > synthesized tone tracks that of the input. > (also it has tone controls on the synth part) > > It has 2 controls on the bass sound which, with the dry mix, > gives you more control than usual over the results. > > True Bypass. > ...and the dry sound when mixed in is pristine. > > > Some amazing ebow sounds with it too, especially > using the 'Sub Off' option which replaces the regular > sub sound with something more fuzzy. > > It's one of my 'must have' fx these days. > > > I tried the original 70's version, ages ago, and > wasn't impressed, don't remember why though. > > > > > I haven't tried the Chilli Dog, (and it's not > easily available here), I'll give > it a whirl if I get the chance, but I'd > be worried about the bypass tone at that price point. > andy > > > > >