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Well, this is getting embarrassing but I will press on to ask again anyway. I can get the midi to work running Mobius as a stand alone. Record starts recording and plays as expected when stopped. But when I go into Live, the recording always does that 1 second and reset thing. I thought I tried all the things suggested (and I do have it set up as described below) but I can't figure out what is going on. Anyone want to take pity on a simpleton and walk me through the steps of configuring Live and Mobius to play nicely together. I feel like I'm missing something obvious but don't know how to track it down. I guess its fair to say I know enough to cause trouble but don't really quite understand exactly what I'm doing. I'd be happy to read a manual but I can't even seem to find the solution to the problem I'm facing in the manual or forums (though Jeff's manual does mention the long press reset problem but seems to assume I would then know how to solve that issue). Round three anyone? Kevin On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote: > I am thinking we (and by "we" I think I mean Per and Ricky G) solved the > problem by routing MIDI directly to the plug-in via a MIDI track in > Ableton, > rather than trusting Ableton to deliver the message. > > > So - Set up an empty MIDI channel, and set up an Audio channel. Place the > plug-in in the Audio channel. In the MIDI channel route the "MIDI From" > from > the audio interface (and filter channel if need be) and route the "MIDI > To" > to the plug-in channel, and subsequently to the plug-in itself within > that > channel. > > > This should ensure the plug-in is hearing what is being sent, and not > being > munged by Ableton. > > > I will check this out this evening when I get back to my studio and let > you > know. > > > Phil :) > > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:19 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> > wrote: >> >> It's also typical behaviour for when the Note-Off doesn't reach >> the Echoloop. >> >> It seems that Ableton suppresses Note-Off on some (all?) routings. >> >> andy >> >> >> Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>> When using any third-party plugin hosted in Live there are three ways >>> external MIDI control surface gear can talk to the plugin: >>> >>> 1) As MIDI Track Input through Live (activate/deactivate in Live's >>> Preferences, MIDI/Sync tab). >>> 2) As Remote control through Live (activate/deactivate in Live's >>> Preferences, MIDI/Sync tab). >>> 3) Third-party plugin set to listen directly to the system's MIDI Port. >>> >>> The issue with the looper killing itself on Record is typical when >>> more than one of the above control systems are active (as Jeff >>> explained). >>> >>> I have tried all three for looper plugins and with Mobius I stick to >>> "3". Not because it is better but because it makes my jumping between >>> many alternative host applications very smooth. "1" is also easy once >>> you have set the MIDI bindings in Mobius. In order to make "2" work >>> with Mobius one needs to first go into Mobius and chose which >>> parameters the plugin shall expose to the host and then use Ableton's >>> internal system (VST or AU protocol) to set up the mapping in Live. >>> The "Abes" recommend this method. >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.perboysen.com >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Phil Clevenger >>> <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Wow that's weird, just this evening I have been wrestling with the >>>> exact >>>> same behavior, but with Echoloop within Live. All Echoloop functions >>>> are >>>> mapped and respond fine, but pressing the LG controller button bound >>>> to >>>> Echoloop's Record function results in a short bit of Record time, >>>> followed >>>> by a reset. So it seems to interpret the NoteOn as a long press. >>>> >>>> Had it working some time back - encountered this problem then as well, >>>> but somehow solved it, and now cannot recall the solution - gah ! >>>> >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >>>> >>>>> Okay, so anyone thinks I should take this to the Mobius forums that's >>>>> cool, but.... >>>>> >>>>> So thanks to Jeff's advice I got Mobius running in live and even >>>>> managed to configure the layout of the FCB1010 for most functions. >>>>> Every command I programmed worked EXCEPT, when I press the button >>>>> bound to the record function, it goes into record for 4 counts and >>>>> then stops. I've confirmed that the pedal is sending Note on and off >>>>> with a value of 01. >>>>> >>>>> Apologies if I'm missing the obvious, it certainly wouldn't be the >>>>> first time. I hope to get this figured out before I get annoying >>>>> with >>>>> these questions. >>>>> >>>>> Any pointers? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to >>>>> have a >>>>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >>>>> trouble. >>>>> >>>>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >>>>> >>>>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >>>>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >>>>> >>> >>> >> > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos