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Actually using the MIDI Mapping on Live could potentially work fine. I can actually map any button on the looper to a MIDI note coming in from my FCB. The problem is that when I press a button on my FCB, let's say to trigger Record, Live sends it to the looper as a momentary button press, not toggle.
So, in detail: 1. I go into the Live MIDI map mode. 2. I mouse click the Record button on the EchoLoop 3. I hit a button on the FCB controller4. It creates a MIDI map line item in the MIDI map screen: Note D1; Record; min value is 0; max value is 1
5. I exit MIDI map mode 6. I hit my Record button on the FCB controller7. The value for the Record parameter (shown as a horizontal slider) in Live moves from 0 to 1, but stays at 1. 8. The Record button on the looper lights up for a moment and nothing happens - basically a reset (Record button hold)
Now, if I quickly hit my FCB record button twice, very quickly, then the looper starts to record! So I need the button to act like a toggle. Why Live does not allow me to change that behavior is baffling. That would be such a simple solution.
Kris-----Original Message----- From: andy butler
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:16 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fw: EchoLoop in Live -- any lick MIDI mapping with the FCB1010? hi Kris, Per's right. Ableton is a tech support nightmare because people really want to use midi-learn/midi-map. They don't help at all, you need to pass the midi straight through to the plugin. ...and the fcb1010 has to be programmed as if for a Hardware EDP. If you *have* got midi-learn stuff set-up then it can only interfere with how it all should work. Essentially, you just need to plug your virtual midi cable into the plugin. (except that the UI in Ableton isn't all that user friendly). I'll send you a copy of my HOWTO off-list (it has screenshots that don't travel by mailing list). andy Per Boysen wrote:
Can't you change in Live how it should interpret the MIDI event, momentary or not? If clicking down at the bottom of the MIDI learn screen - I've done that a lot here. But generally I think you will save a lot of unnecessary if you use the EchoLoop as Mathias intended it - like a software EDP clone bound to react with its actions to pre specified MIDI note events. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Boise Creative & Improvised Music Festival <krispen.hartung@gmail.com> wrote:I am going to post this here to see if anyone has figured out a solution.Basically, I am sending notes from the FCB1010 to Live. The cool thing is that in the looper's interface, and in Live, I can actually go into the MIDImap mode, click my mouse on the actual Record button in the looperinterface, and Live will map one of my FCB1010 pedals to it. And I can seeit trying to work when I press my FCB1010 food pedal. The problem is that when I do the mapping, in the parameters section ofLive, for the looper (bottom of screen), it shows the parameter as a scale between 0 and 1, like a slider. When I press the button, it basically acts like a button press and hold, rather than a button press and release. I amthinking there must be something I can do in Live to re-interpret the FCB1010 notes data as a toggle and not a press and hold. On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Boise Creative & Improvised Music Festival <krispen.hartung@gmail.com> wrote:Per, have you used Matthias' EchoLoop in Live yet?It seems to load up fine, but I am noticing some strange things when MIDImapping my FCB pedals to the buttons. For example, when I map to the Recordbutton, and press it, it seems to hold the button down and not release. I am assuming there is a toggle parameter in the looper somewhere? I do notsee it. Kris