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RE: Rang III question and also I need help with clipping and distortion problem.

Hi Gareth,

yes, I have a mixer, actually I have two, a Soundcraft efx8 and a mackie profx8 (this has got usb).
I am recording my loops in Cubase before I go to sleep, not as music production, just as documentation purposes.
But when I am out I will be unable to record anything unless I buy some recorder.
But well, maybe I looked at the RC300 too long before deciding for the RangIII, so I now feel that I miss some things of the RC300. We'll see.

For the noise of the RangIII, I mean during the loop playback. If you do not record and play back a loop there is no noise, but when you record something and loop it back, at max volume there is noise.
In yours there is not?
My mixer is pretty good, and the mic too. The cable is not professional, but... I thought it is also coming from the Rang.

For the mic input, for what I do my BASIC emergency setup is a mic, effect processor like digitech vocal300, harmony processor like tchelicon voicetone h1, and the looper. If the looper has got no mic input, then I must also bring with me a mixer. It is not a deal breaker at all. I am still convinced that I did the right choice with the Rang over the Boss.


From: buddhamachine@live.co.uk
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: Rang III question and also I need help with clipping and distortion problem.
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:43:05 +0000

Hi Sergio,
My Rang has a very clean sound but it doesn't need much driving so I suggest you just keep your inout levels quite low. 
Re. storing loops - if you want to keep loops you've created, just record them into Cubase. The 'rang is aimed at people creating loops live so to speak. Are you trying to re-record previously made loops into the 'rang? 
If you need a mic inout and are looking at e.q. then a small mixer might be a good investment for you. I like the Alesis ones but there are many cheap and excellent quality ones around. If I were to get another, I'd go for one with a usb interface, that'd let you transfer your loops pretty seamlessly to your computer.



Gareth Whittock, sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk

From: simpliflying@gmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Rang III question and also I need help with clipping and distortion problem.
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 02:19:43 +0000

Hello to everybody!

I was expecting some "hey! Congratulations!" for my "Arrived" message where I tell I received the Rang II so I am officially a looper :)
Anyway, I have enough chocolate ice cream (I scream, you scream, we all scream for Ice Cream) to compensate the emotional damage of this silence.

In the while I am playing with the Rang II.
1) Beautiful! Little. Nice. Powerful.
2) A bit noisy seems to be, if volume is more than 2/3. Is it normal?
3) How can I make a loop longer? I see that if a loop is 4 beats then if I don't stop stacking on time it starts the loop from the beginning and keeps stacking (which is uncomfortable both because I cannot make a loop longer, and because I must be very careful not to reoverub!)
4) I did not pay attention before: it has got no memory extension. So, no SD card. If time is over, time is over. But for now I am confident that the time will be enough. We'll see.
5) Also I did not pay attention to this before: it cannot store loops. I am not interested in a extensive storage RC300 style, I will improvise on stage, I do not need presaved loops, but it would be nice if when I do something nice and I do not have a recorder with me, I could store it on the looper.
6) Other "did not pa attention before": no mic input. So, mixer or mixer. Which is a BIG mistake IMHO. It is so much smaller than a RC300, damn, Mike, put a Mic input please, so I can go where I want with just looper and mic for a very emergency survival loop kit. Loopers are NOT anymore just for guitarists or keyboardists!

Then there are few details more (which I believe they could be fixed with just a software update) but I am taking the time to know it better. Too early to say really.

But apart for these things, it is great. 

Now, the clipping/distortion.
I am doing lot of pseudo techno stuff with it, but mostly with a mic and effects to make my voice much lower and make it sound like an instrument.
So, lot of basses.
I am new to music and this question is probably very very basic but... what is a compressor/limiter for? I was about to buy a RNC or RNLA, or a DBX166xs.
I Just see that in Cubase there is a plugin compressor limiter which helps me a lot in preventing clipping and saturation of sound.
I really need to avoid clipping, saturation, distortion.
I will of course pay attention to the input and gain of the mic, but it happens anyway that there is clipping etc.
Somebody told me I should use a good equalizer but I still have the suspect that I need something different.