The times I’ve been most grateful for Echoloop’s direct MIDI scheme are when my host has crashed and learned MIDI has been lost, or I’ve stupidly done something that results in learned MIDI being lost. My controllers and VST’s then have to be re-taught, where Echoloop still hears all the commands being sent by my controller. Though I switch hosts occasionally too, and appreciate the direct MIDI in those cases too :)In reality I use a combination of direct and learned: the former for most base functionality, the latter for more ephemeral or on-the-fly stuff, tests etc…Phil :)On Dec 14, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Steven Clements <email@example.com> wrote:As it is, once the controller is mapped to the echoloop it's fine as long as you don't run into another VST that would require you program for that alone.not to be argumentative but Midilearn takes about the same amount of time maybe a bit less but not much and yes it's application dependent, but is also flexiblePerhaps even less then 5 minutes with a programmer...punching in the midi commands for a FBC1010 using iFCB X 2.4.9 is quick.
Midilearn allows you to move to different software without reprogramming the controller, you simply program the VST in the application
the same controllers assigned midi notes are remapped within the VST/AUI can see where you then may have to program the VST/AU Midilearn for each and every application you intend to use it in, but that's quick and can also be mapped to effectsso that you can have a single midi command affect multiple plugins at the same timeIf each VST/AU required a reprogramming of the controller, then the controller becomes application or VST dependent doesn't it?Again not the end of the world just a reprogram of the controller and you're back in business, rather then the application being flexible enough to be quickly setup to accept and reroute commands from a controller.No disrespect at all
StevenOn Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 1:56 AM, andy butler <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
On 14/12/2014 07:05, Steven Clements wrote:
It would be really nice if you could midi map the thing as well
Well there's a reason we didn't provide that feature.
If you want to do anything half complicated with midi control,
or if you want mess around with the order of buttons on your controller,
or if you want to edit the midi assignments,
then midi-learn is actually much more awkward to use.
Having a documented series of midi commands means there's always a
In any case, echoloop is an emulator of the EDP,
any additional features would have to wait for Evoloop.
I know this is probably a bit of a downer, but programming
a midi controller with a bank of Echoloop commands is
going to take about 20 mins.
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Christopher Darrow <email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>> wrote:
I'd pay again for a bright, shinny new 64 bit Echoloop VST, PDQ, FYI. :)
On Dec 13, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Steven Clements <email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>> wrote:
Spot on sir
echoloop is obviously 32bit because there it is
thanks a bunch
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Steven Clements <email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>> wrote:
I'll install a 32bit version and give it a try
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Per Boysen <email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>> wrote:
Kind of... make sure the plugin runs inside 64 bit code! I have no idea if that is the case, but if not it might be the issue.
Greetings from Sweden
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Steven Clements <email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>> wrote:
Hey Pers... I'm running at 64 bit... if that's what you mean
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Per Boysen <email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>> wrote:
Just a guess here: check the 32 vs 64 bit code thing!
Greetings from Sweden
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Steven Clements <email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>> wrote:
Hey guys and gals...
I'm trying to get echoloop installed and Its not showing up in my Live VST folder.
I've placed the Echoloop.vst in
Macintosh HD/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST3 for good measure
Heck I even put it in
I've had Live rescan for VST's and I've even changed the directory in LIVE preferences a few times open that it would see the Echoloop.vst
I've placed EcholoopMathons.rky in the dir
anybody have an idea what I've goofed up?
thanks in advance