Re: The Big Bump issue.

[Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net>]

Oh, I totally agree, don't get me wrong.  I'd rather not work his way, but 
I made
a choice, which was to give up some of the great functionality of the EDP, 
in
return for Quad Loop recording (for under the $2400 you'd have to spend to 
buy 4
EDPs) and non volatile memory.  I also got a few extras, like great time
stretch/compress functions and the ability to shift loops against each 
other.
Because I'm coming from the JamMan camp, I actually didn't loose anything. 
 I
never used the JamMan in delay mode (though I may now), because I needed 
the
ability to change to a new loop, and go back.  When I think of the use per 
dollar
(I think I bought my JamMan new for $350 or so) of the JamMan, it's pretty
incredible.

Anyway, I've pretty much always "primed" my loops.  I think I've learned 
to work
this way and kind of "know" how long something needs to be.  Maybe I'm 
wrong.  If
I had it the other way I might say, "how could I have done without this?"  
Until
then, I'll be here in my apartment looping.

Mark Sottilaro

Kim Flint wrote:

> At 10:55 PM 9/12/2001, Mark Sottilaro wrote:
> >I'm not sure why you don't just record a blank loop first, at your 
>desired
> >tempo/length and then, open it back up and start playing.  I do it with 
>big
> >pad-like volume swells all the time, and it works fine.  No bump.  This 
>is the
> >only way you could do it on the JamMan as well.  The EDP will finish a
> >loop and
> >keep you in record, I understand, but I'm not sure if anything else 
>does.
>
> I believe this is accomplished in the jamman using the delay mode, right?
>
> The reason why pre-recording the loop first is unworkable for most people
> is because you want the loop length defined by what you are playing and 
>not
> the other way around. If you are improvising, you probably don't really
> know how long the loop will before you start, and it can be rather
> difficult to play into a predefined loop length and get the timing right.
> You certainly don't want to sit there in front of your audience doing
> nothing while you wait for this empty loop to record! and this is not 
>just
> about ambient sound washes either, as Mark L mentioned. All types of
> looping use this technique.
>
> Being able to overdub immediately after recording is a fundamental 
>looping
> technique that has basically been in existence since the 60's. (or maybe
> earlier, I'm sure somebody can correct me.)  Since the early/mid 90's 
>we've
> been freed of having to preset loop lengths, with the arrival of devices
> like the Pardis Loop/Delay, the jamman, and the EDP where you could tap 
>the
> loop lengths on the fly. Why should we be going backwards now?
>
> kim
>
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