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RE: Dumb question again
Hi
Richard,
Well,
I will have to send you a CD of my stuff, as the acoustic stuff is but one side
to my musical schizophrenia. I used two Line 6 modellers for that bit of
improving I did for the Gourmet Guitars vid, but I also use a Repeater, an LP-1,
and an Echoplex as well. I'm most familiar at this point with the DL4's and the
Repeater though I'm getting more skilled at the LP-1 and Echoplex. Of the
currently available floor stuff, I really like the boomerang, and the new RC50,
though its lack of feedback control has some folks panties in a bunch. But both
units are self contained and sound really good, and have a lot of memory.
regarding the more expensive loopers, you do get a considerable increase in
functionality with the more sophisticated rack mount loopers, each having there
own strengths and weaknesses, however I enjoy using my DL-4's as much as any of
the pricier boxes. I'd make a list of what your needs are and see which
looper fits the bill the best. Do you need long memory time, the ability to half
speed record, reverse function, or variable feedback? Also remember that the
more limited boxes still have much to offer, and sometimes an effects
limitations can act to inspire. I personally know of a used Repeater for sale,
though I'm not sure what version the software is yet. Regarding the RC-50's, The
store I work at part time in Santa Cruz has two available, and are selling for
whatever the MAP pricing is on the internet.
God
luck and get going.
Bill
Hi again
So I''m going to get a
Looperlative but have an unusual opportunity to get a cheaper unit in the mean
time. A friend wants to buy me one so we can fiddle while I'm in the Bay Area.
I know this is not a simple question and there's no clear and simple answer
but...
I can buy an old LExicon JamMan on ebay. There's two that don't
appear to have the upgrades.
The Digitech Jamman
Boss RC
50
Or...????
When I first asked about this some folks said to get a
cheaper unit and see how the world of looping works for me etc. I guess it
makes sense. I'm aiming to do something like Bill Walker does - acoustic
stuff... inspired by Michael Hedges etc. What do you use, Bill?
Should
I just bit the bullet and buy the looper and control pedals etc? Part of me
says to go ahead and do that but the frugal part of me says test the water
first.
And I'm sorry I mentioned the dreaded 'chops' word the other
day. I think I was misunderstood. For me, chops is simply the ability to play
what you want to play well. It has nothing to do with pyrotechnics,
which I don't pursue... or going to Berklee or 32nd notes etc. My particular
interest in chops is being able to make the guitar moan... and drawing out the
glorious tone of the instrument & making it work.
As one of you
said, it all boils down to creativity. I support any music that's creative and
has passion. I just start to day dream out when that's not there.
I
appreciate found music and mistakes. And I recorded Miles Davis once (with Jim
Smith)... so I am deep into the glory of accidents with music. I love Eric
Dolphy and Blind Willie Johnson, Charles Ives and Charlie Parker, Robert
Johnson and Robert Dylan - it's a very long list. Actually, I try to not judge
other's music really. It's not my business. I was just impressed with how
INCREDIBLY simple my daughter wanted the guitar to be. Simple is very good. In
some ways simple is much harder than complex. It's just, once you figure out
the parts, it LOOKS like you've been playing the guitar for a month or two.
But that's just ego and ego... well...
Anyhow, back to the looper. I
don't need any effects etc or reverse looping etc for my current needs. Just
simple looping and a relatively easy way to switch from Loop A to B, maybe to
C and back and forth. And I'm very sorry to ask this. I know it's an
incredibly stupid and hard question to answer without more data.
Thanks
richard sales
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On
22-Jun-06, at 5:49 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:
I acutally like the Fender Twin and Jazz JC-120 tones of my Boss
VF1s, and when is started this every Monday night jazz gig, I used them with
my powered PA speakers....but, it's still too much shit and technology for
me to worry about for a traditional jazz gig. Like many jazzers I know, I
want to walk in with my guitar strapped on my back and one small amp in my
hand....set the amp down, plug in with one patch chord and simply play. I
can setup and be playing in 5 minutes.
Moreover, I just bought a
Roland Cube 30 and I'm really looking forward to using it when it gets here.
Now I can take more time selling my Boogie Mark I....which I am now selling
with a 1X12 Mesa Boogie Thiele cabinet (sealed and ported)....both for
$1000. The cabinets alone often sell for $250 used on
eBay.
Kris
----- Original Message ----- From: "William Walker"
<billwalker@baymoon.com>
To:
<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006
5:09 PM
Subject: RE: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I Combo Amp
Mark has a point, i too love the vox modeler, and I've had
good results
running into my mackie sm 350's the smaller lighter weight
brothers to the
sm450s, which I know some of you JBL fans think are
harsh sounding. I say
balderdash they souund great. Now I also like the
tube combo/ stomp box
route which can get expensive, but still sounds
the best to my ears. Do take
note that the vox people did not see fit
to model a transistor amp, not jazz
chorus model ala line 6. So if that
is your mind set maybe the vox ain't for
you. But a great fender twin
model is hard to beat, if you can't lug around
the real thing and
remember that most of the classic electric jazz was
recorded on tube
gear, amps, preamps, compressors, etc...having daid that I
realy liked
the sound of the jazzmaster UL, it had a beautifull clean sound,
a nice
smooth singing overdrive channel, and spartan yet decent
sounding
effects. And its tiny, and light.
Bill
-----Original
Message-----
From: mark sottilaro
[mailto:zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:27
AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: FOR SALE:
Mesa Boogie Mark I Combo Amp
Why not ditch the guitar amp
concept in favor of a
modeler? I swear by mine (Vox Tonelab) and 90%
of
gigs have a PA anyway. Those that don't are probably
not worth
doing or you could probably get by with some
of the lighter powered
speakers like the JBLs. I keep
a combo amp around anyway, but it rarely
gets used.
Mark
--- ditch wrestler
<ditchwrestler@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think that amp and cab was reviewed in the
latest/very
recent issue of Guitar Player...
ted.
William Walker
<billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
Under amps, look under the
heading ultralight, The
amp is called oddly
enough, the Jazz
master ultra light..
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From:
Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June
21, 2006 6:15 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject:
Re: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I Combo Amp
What model is that
Bill? I'm on the Fender site now
and can't find anything
called a
jazz amp.
The FM 25 DSP looks
interesting:
http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=2318500000
$200
Kris
----- Original Message
-----
From: "William Walker"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006
5:35 PM
Subject: RE: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I Combo
Amp
> The new fender jazz amp is worth a look,
very
small , loud as you would
> need, and nice simple effects.
and its a head
cabinet design that uses
> speakon plugs. It
sounds realy real good.
> Bill
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Krispen
Hartung
[mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June
20, 2006 9:36 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I
Combo
Amp
>
>
> Yeah, I thought the target market
for my boogie
would be fairly slim. I'd
> be willing to make a
trade if someone had the
right gear. I love the amp
> and the
tone is spectacular, but it's a bit
overkill and heavy for me
(I
> have a bad back, had surgury last Dec, etc). I use
the
boogie just for my
> monday night traditional jazz gig. I'm
thinking of
gettting a Roland Cube
> 30
> because it is
only 20 pounds and smaller, plus it
has a lot of
>
effects...anybody have one?
>
> My lexicon LXP1 and LXP5.
The LXP1 is primarily
for delay, chorus, and
> reverb. I had
been using it for reverb...it really
does have nice verb,
>
and
> the chorus is lush as well. The LXP5 is more like
a a
multi-effects box.
> It
> is a bit challenging to program,
however. If
someone has the patience to
> get
> inside
the menu tree, or uses the MIDIQuest
software, then you can
get
> some
> interesting sounds out of it. It's not an
Eventide
or TC Electronics
> Fireworx by any means, but still a
powerful little
effects box.
>
> I'm actually considering
selling my two Boss VF-1
units as well.....need
> to
>
give that more thought, however, as I'm in love
with those little
red
> boxes.
> :)
>
>
Kris
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message
-----
> From: "tEd � kiLLiAn"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday,
June 20, 2006 10:19 PM
> Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I
Combo
Amp
>
>
>> Kris,
>>
>>
'Tis a beaut indeed. But a tad rich for my meager
means.
>>
I am mildly interested in your Lexicon
half-space
processors
>> you mentioned on the list the other
day however.
>>
>> Given I'm a Mac guy, the software
isn't a factor
for me.
>> But a really good processor (or
two) with some
new
>> creative potential sounds
attractive.
>>
>> Anything more you care to say about
them?
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> On
Jun 20, 2006, at 8:46 PM, Krispen
Hartung
wrote:
>>
>>> Any takers? It's a
beauty.
>>>
>>>
http://www.krispenhartung.com/mark-I.htm
>>>
>>>
Kris
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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