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RE: Dumb question again
Hi 
Richard, 
Well, 
I will have to send you a CD of my stuff, as the acoustic stuff is but one side 
to my musical schizophrenia. I used two Line 6 modellers for that bit of 
improving I did for the Gourmet Guitars vid, but I also use a Repeater, an LP-1, 
and an Echoplex as well. I'm most familiar at this point with the DL4's and the 
Repeater though I'm getting more skilled at the LP-1 and Echoplex. Of the 
currently available floor stuff, I really like the boomerang, and the new RC50, 
though its lack of feedback control has some folks panties in a bunch. But both 
units are self contained and sound really good, and have a lot of memory.  
regarding the more expensive loopers, you do get a considerable increase in 
functionality with the more sophisticated rack mount loopers, each having there 
own strengths and weaknesses, however I enjoy using my DL-4's as much as any of 
the pricier  boxes. I'd make a list of what your needs are and see which 
looper fits the bill the best. Do you need long memory time, the ability to half 
speed record, reverse function, or variable feedback? Also remember that the 
more limited boxes still have much to offer, and sometimes an effects 
limitations can act to inspire. I personally know of a used Repeater for sale, 
though I'm not sure what version the software is yet. Regarding the RC-50's, The 
store I work at part time in Santa Cruz has two available, and are selling for 
whatever the MAP pricing is on the internet.
God 
luck and get going.
Bill
  Hi again
So I''m going to get a 
  Looperlative but have an unusual opportunity to get a cheaper unit in the mean 
  time. A friend wants to buy me one so we can fiddle while I'm in the Bay Area. 
  I know this is not a simple question and there's no clear and simple answer 
  but... 
I can buy an old LExicon JamMan on ebay. There's two that don't 
  appear to have the upgrades.
The Digitech Jamman
Boss RC 
  50
Or...????
When I first asked about this some folks said to get a 
  cheaper unit and see how the world of looping works for me etc. I guess it 
  makes sense. I'm aiming to do something like Bill Walker does - acoustic 
  stuff... inspired by Michael Hedges etc. What do you use, Bill?
Should 
  I just bit the bullet and buy the looper and control pedals etc? Part of me 
  says to go ahead and do that but the frugal part of me says test the water 
  first. 
And I'm sorry I mentioned the dreaded 'chops' word the other 
  day. I think I was misunderstood. For me, chops is simply the ability to play 
  what you want to play well. It has nothing to do with pyrotechnics, 
  which I don't pursue... or going to Berklee or 32nd notes etc. My particular 
  interest in chops is being able to make the guitar moan... and drawing out the 
  glorious tone of the instrument & making it work. 
As one of you 
  said, it all boils down to creativity. I support any music that's creative and 
  has passion. I just start to day dream out when that's not there. 
I 
  appreciate found music and mistakes. And I recorded Miles Davis once (with Jim 
  Smith)... so I am deep into the glory of accidents with music. I love Eric 
  Dolphy and Blind Willie Johnson, Charles Ives and Charlie Parker, Robert 
  Johnson and Robert Dylan - it's a very long list. Actually, I try to not judge 
  other's music really. It's not my business. I was just impressed with how 
  INCREDIBLY simple my daughter wanted the guitar to be. Simple is very good. In 
  some ways simple is much harder than complex. It's just, once you figure out 
  the parts, it LOOKS like you've been playing the guitar for a month or two. 
  But that's just ego and ego... well...
Anyhow, back to the looper. I 
  don't need any effects etc or reverse looping etc for my current needs. Just 
  simple looping and a relatively easy way to switch from Loop A to B, maybe to 
  C and back and forth. And I'm very sorry to ask this. I know it's an 
  incredibly stupid and hard question to answer without more data. 
  
Thanks
richard sales
glassWing farm and 
  studio/color>
vancouver island, b.c.
800.545.6846
250.752.4816
www.glassWing.com
www.richardsales.com
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On 
  22-Jun-06, at 5:49 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:
  I acutally like the Fender Twin and Jazz JC-120 tones of my Boss 
    VF1s, and when is started this every Monday night jazz gig, I used them with 
    my powered PA speakers....but, it's still too much shit and technology for 
    me to worry about for a traditional jazz gig. Like many jazzers I know, I 
    want to walk in with my guitar strapped on my back and one small amp in my 
    hand....set the amp down, plug in with one patch chord and simply play. I 
    can setup and be playing in 5 minutes.
Moreover, I just bought a 
    Roland Cube 30 and I'm really looking forward to using it when it gets here. 
    Now I can take more time selling my Boogie Mark I....which I am now selling 
    with a 1X12 Mesa Boogie Thiele cabinet (sealed and ported)....both for 
    $1000. The cabinets alone often sell for $250 used on 
    eBay.
Kris
----- Original Message ----- From: "William Walker" 
    <billwalker@baymoon.com>
To: 
    <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 
    5:09 PM
Subject: RE: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I Combo Amp
    Mark has a point, i too love the vox modeler, and I've had 
      good results
running into my mackie sm 350's the smaller lighter weight 
      brothers to the
sm450s, which I know some of you JBL fans think are 
      harsh sounding. I say
balderdash they souund great. Now I also like the 
      tube combo/ stomp box
route which can get expensive, but still sounds 
      the best to my ears. Do take
note that the vox people did not see fit 
      to model a transistor amp, not jazz
chorus model ala line 6. So if that 
      is your mind set maybe the vox ain't for
you. But a great fender twin 
      model is hard to beat, if you can't lug around
the real thing and 
      remember that most of the classic electric jazz was
recorded on tube 
      gear, amps, preamps, compressors, etc...having daid that I
realy liked 
      the sound of the jazzmaster UL, it had a beautifull clean sound,
a nice 
      smooth singing overdrive channel, and spartan yet decent 
      sounding
effects. And its tiny, and light.
Bill
-----Original 
      Message-----
From: mark sottilaro 
      [mailto:zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:27 
      AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: FOR SALE: 
      Mesa Boogie Mark I Combo Amp
Why not ditch the guitar amp 
      concept in favor of a
modeler? I swear by mine (Vox Tonelab) and 90% 
      of
gigs have a PA anyway. Those that don't are probably
not worth 
      doing or you could probably get by with some
of the lighter powered 
      speakers like the JBLs. I keep
a combo amp around anyway, but it rarely 
      gets used.
Mark
--- ditch wrestler 
      <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com> wrote:
      I think that amp and cab was reviewed in the
latest/very 
        recent issue of Guitar Player...
ted.
William Walker 
        <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
Under amps, look under the 
        heading ultralight, The
amp is called oddly
enough, the Jazz 
        master ultra light..
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: 
        Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 
        21, 2006 6:15 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: 
        Re: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I Combo Amp
What model is that 
        Bill? I'm on the Fender site now
and can't find anything
called a 
        jazz amp.
The FM 25 DSP looks 
      interesting:
http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=2318500000
      
$200
Kris
----- Original Message 
        -----
From: "William Walker"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 
        5:35 PM
Subject: RE: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I Combo 
        Amp
> The new fender jazz amp is worth a look, 
        very
small , loud as you would
> need, and nice simple effects. 
        and its a head
cabinet design that uses
> speakon plugs. It 
        sounds realy real good.
> Bill
>
> -----Original 
        Message-----
> From: Krispen 
        Hartung
[mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 
        20, 2006 9:36 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> 
        Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I 
        Combo
Amp
>
>
> Yeah, I thought the target market 
        for my boogie
would be fairly slim. I'd
> be willing to make a 
        trade if someone had the
right gear. I love the amp
> and the 
        tone is spectacular, but it's a bit
overkill and heavy for me 
        (I
> have a bad back, had surgury last Dec, etc). I use
the 
        boogie just for my
> monday night traditional jazz gig. I'm 
        thinking of
gettting a Roland Cube
> 30
> because it is 
        only 20 pounds and smaller, plus it
has a lot of
> 
        effects...anybody have one?
>
> My lexicon LXP1 and LXP5. 
        The LXP1 is primarily
for delay, chorus, and
> reverb. I had 
        been using it for reverb...it really
does have nice verb,
> 
        and
> the chorus is lush as well. The LXP5 is more like
a a 
        multi-effects box.
> It
> is a bit challenging to program, 
        however. If
someone has the patience to
> get
> inside 
        the menu tree, or uses the MIDIQuest
software, then you can 
        get
> some
> interesting sounds out of it. It's not an 
        Eventide
or TC Electronics
> Fireworx by any means, but still a 
        powerful little
effects box.
>
> I'm actually considering 
        selling my two Boss VF-1
units as well.....need
> to
> 
        give that more thought, however, as I'm in love
with those little 
        red
> boxes.
> :)
>
> 
        Kris
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message 
        -----
> From: "tEd � kiLLiAn"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, 
        June 20, 2006 10:19 PM
> Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I 
        Combo
Amp
>
>
>> Kris,
>>
>> 
        'Tis a beaut indeed. But a tad rich for my meager
means.
>> 
        I am mildly interested in your Lexicon 
        half-space
processors
>> you mentioned on the list the other 
        day however.
>>
>> Given I'm a Mac guy, the software 
        isn't a factor
for me.
>> But a really good processor (or 
        two) with some
new
>> creative potential sounds 
        attractive.
>>
>> Anything more you care to say about 
        them?
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> On 
        Jun 20, 2006, at 8:46 PM, Krispen 
        Hartung
wrote:
>>
>>> Any takers? It's a 
        beauty.
>>>
>>> 
        http://www.krispenhartung.com/mark-I.htm
>>>
>>> 
        Kris
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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