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kim: >no, multiply in real time is unique to the echoplex. You could do it with >hard disk recording, but nowhere near as easily. Once you try, it seems so >completely natural and obvious. I don't think I could live without a >feature like this, and neither could Matthias, obviously! It was the main reason to start designing a dedicated looper. I proposed the feature to t.c. for the 2290 and they thought it only served for some crazy "new agers". Then I built the feature into the PCM42 and was satisfied for a while (yes, with rounding, completely on HW logic! The unit still exists, but it gave a long squeek and died pretty exactly when the LOOP delay prototype started working). But when the need to sync to a second loop musician and the idea of Undo came, I had to do it right... Matthias