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Mathias, what kind of signal is the Beatsync? Wouldn't FSK or a switchable waveform triger/gate out be a useful feature? Please explain Beatsync the signal. Thanks in advance. - Larry T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Grob" <matthias@grob.org> To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 9:49 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible to sync Vortex to EDP? > I like this kind of thread. Its smart: you can do a short loop on the > Plex, the Vortex does one of the same lenght. Not so interesting. But > then you can multiply the one on the Plex and the Vortex continues > the same, thats how BeatSync is. > > Ofcourse, it also would be interesting to be able to subdivide the > BeatSync output with the 8th/beat parameter...remember my > SubCycleSync idea, Kim? > > As Kim said, BeatSync would be the most handy way to tap automatically. > I just tried it: my BeatSync pulse is too short for the Vortex. :-( > 8ms is pretty short. I just increased it to 40ms and it worked! > > Are there any arguments for the length of BeatSync? > Who uses this output for what? > I thought it could be a metronome like click. If I make it longer, > the sound turns audibly doubble, but its ugly anyway. > > I think we should adapt the length to the necessity of aplications > like this. And since all switch inputs need some debounce function, > pulses need to be longer... > > > > >--- John Tidwell <wedgehed@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I've tried running the EDP's midi out to a midi/cv > >> converter & then connecting the converter's S-TRIG > >> out to the Vortex tap tempo jack. > > > >This did not work because you need to apply a "note > >on" from the midi size in order to generate the S-trig > >output (note on in midi is translated to S-trig for > >moog type analog synths). > > > >That is why the following worked for you: > > > >> > >> Out of curiosity, I disconnected the midi cable > >> from the EDP & hooked it up to the midi out of a > >> keyboard. Guess what? Every key on the keyboard now > >> acted like the tap tempo foot switch of the Vortex! > > > >The keyboard sends a midi note on when each key is > >pressed. > > EDP does that too: It sends a NoteOn/velocity 64, immediately > followed by a NoteOn/velocity 0, each time the loop is back to its > startpoint (when the multiple dot flashes). > > Probably the note is to short to do the trigger, since its of the > same lenth as the BeatSync out and probably your converter also > maintains this time. > > > > > >I have been thinking lately on how to use beat sync to > >gen a S-trig for my analog synths. I think it can be > >done rather easily and cheaply, and might be fun. > > yes, yes! > > > oops, Denis explained it all before me: > >The EDP sends a note-on/note-off at the beginning of every cycle. If >you have > >Source# set to 36, a note number 45 will be sent. I don't remember > >if you need > >to have sync=out or not. > > No, Sync does not influence that, ControlSource does, needs to be set > to NOTE, in this case. > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > >