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Re: Is it possible to sync Vortex to EDP?

Mathias, what kind of signal is the Beatsync? Wouldn't
FSK or a switchable waveform triger/gate out be a
useful feature?

Please explain Beatsync the signal. Thanks in advance.

- Larry T

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthias Grob" <matthias@grob.org>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: Is it possible to sync Vortex to EDP?

> I like this kind of thread. Its smart: you can do a short loop on the
> Plex, the Vortex does one of the same lenght. Not so interesting. But
> then you can multiply the one on the Plex and the Vortex continues
> the same, thats how BeatSync is.
> Ofcourse, it also would be interesting to be able to subdivide the
> BeatSync output with the 8th/beat parameter...remember my
> SubCycleSync idea, Kim?
> As Kim said, BeatSync would be the most handy way to tap automatically.
> I just tried it: my BeatSync pulse is too short for the Vortex.  :-(
> 8ms is pretty short. I just increased it to 40ms and it worked!
> Are there any arguments for the length of BeatSync?
> Who uses this output for what?
> I thought it could be a metronome like click. If I make it longer,
> the sound turns audibly doubble, but its ugly anyway.
> I think we should adapt the length to the necessity of aplications
> like this. And since all switch inputs need some debounce function,
> pulses need to be longer...
> >--- John Tidwell <wedgehed@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >  > I've tried running the EDP's midi out to a midi/cv
> >>  converter & then connecting the converter's S-TRIG
> >>  out to the Vortex tap tempo jack.
> >
> >This did not work because you need to apply a "note
> >on" from the midi size in order to generate the S-trig
> >output (note on in midi is translated to S-trig for
> >moog type analog synths).
> >
> >That is why the following worked for you:
> >
> >>
> >>  Out of curiosity, I disconnected the midi cable
> >>  from the EDP & hooked it up to the midi out of a
> >>  keyboard. Guess what? Every key on the keyboard now
> >>  acted like the tap tempo foot switch of the Vortex!
> >
> >The keyboard sends a midi note on when each key is
> >pressed.
> EDP does that too: It sends a NoteOn/velocity 64, immediately
> followed by a NoteOn/velocity 0, each time the loop is back to its
> startpoint (when the multiple dot flashes).
> Probably the note is to short to do the trigger, since its of the
> same lenth as the BeatSync out and probably your converter also
> maintains this time.
> >
> >I have been thinking lately on how to use beat sync to
> >gen a S-trig for my analog synths.  I think it can be
> >done rather easily and cheaply, and might be fun.
> yes, yes!
> oops, Denis explained it all before me:
> >The EDP sends a note-on/note-off at the beginning of every cycle.  If 
> >Source# set to 36, a note number 45 will be sent.  I don't remember
> >if you need
> >to have sync=out or not.
> No, Sync does not influence that, ControlSource does, needs to be set
> to NOTE, in this case.
>           ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org