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I'm not paid by Electrix, but I have to re-iterate that those $99 effects are more than worth their rack space in gold inserted in the Repeater effects loop. Things get very thick, very fast! I am sympathetic to the notion of the power of limits, maximum music with minimal equipment, and have downsized several times, but now I'm learning, for the 1st time, to be comfortable with LOTS of options (and not feeling guilty because these pieces have been DIRT cheap). I've regretted selling some of my gear in the past...And these boxes look so good and create a great synergy. Psychologically, having all the effects run to a patch bay (un-normalled) liberates me from the 'have to use it all the time' mentality. I also have an EDP, and interestingly, getting the Repeater has made me appreciate the EDP more than ever (and *right on* to Kims email requesting more talk and tutorials on how to use loopers!). I used the 2 together for the 1st time, running the EDP with all syncing, quantizing and rounding off. In the name of 'limits', I guess, I have heretofore almost exclusively run the EDP with slave syncing, quantizing and rounding. Many of the ideas about using EDP, in conjunction with seeing the limits (in its current OS) of the Repeater, has inspired me to try more of the functions and break out of my rut. Having a loop run on the Repeater, and then just putting bits and pieces over it on the EDP, using my ear for the loop cycle lengths, led to some fruitful permutations and I think I'll work this way for a while before running the EDP in sync. Hope to hear more how people are using their loopers, since it seems many will have similar gear in their arsenal. Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Landman > And while replying to dt I have to say he was 100% right about the > pitch/time function on Repeater being a source of fascinating timbres. >I'm > beginning to find some great blurbling, grinding, twittering sounds >slowly > evolving down in these regions! An added bonus with ultra-slow, > pitchshifted up sounds in the range of 1 to 25 BPM is to feed 'em into a > long reverb, instant Jovian atmosphere drones! > > Best- > > Mark > >