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I'll add my two cents to this discussion before somebody buys the Wrong Thing and gets disappointed. I can't remember who originally asked about this one, but I think he'll want an octave divider, not a subharmonic synthesizer, for tweaking with sounds. I use the dbx 120xp (the previous model) Subharmonic Synthesizer, and I like it a lot. I run it on my main mix before the crossover to fatten out the bottom end, and it's great for that as long as your subs can handle it. However, the dbx 120 only analyzes 54-110 Hz to generate its sub-octaves; so it's nice on, say, bass or kick drum or tuba, but otherwise it won't touch anything over 110 Hz. I'm guessing from the available Peavey literature that the Kosmos is pretty much the same thing, plus a spatializer. -Hans > > I see a few different models- there is a digital one etc- any that are > > better/worse? > > > > Hi Cliff, > I've been messing about with the new Behringer Virtualizer 2024. > Has a very nice sub oct patch. > It can produce a synthetic bass note which tracks the lowest note > from the guitar, (but allows chords to be played normally). > You can decide "how far up the neck" you want the effect to go. > This sounds like one of those octave stomp boxes, except that > in only works on the lowest notes. > Tracking is excellent. > > Also on the same patch there's also a sort of subharmonic generator > which works even if your speakers don't go down far enough, > (tricks the ear into hearing a fundamental that isn't really there). > This is very smooth and transparent. Makes the guitar sound > bigger and more bassy. > > I haven't tried the DBX units, so can't give you a comparison, but the > Behringer would seem to have more options. (and a cheapo harmoniser > if you want to do sub-oct that way on occasion) > > andy butler