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--- Matthias Grob <matthias@grob.org> wrote: > There is two ways to do it: > short cables you double until they are only about 30 cm and then make > > a knot into the whole multiple strip. > long cables you have to roll up like a wheal would. The problem is > that most wind them over the arm and thus twist them with every turn. > > The same goes for unrolling them: if you simply take the end of a > nicely rolled cable and walk away, for each turn you will twist it > once, and when its twisted, it becomes really dificult to roll it up > right and its the twisted force that creates the "miscordation" > phenomenon mentioned further up. > Then once they are rolled up, you can make a knot arround it with the > > outer end. Many have warned me saying that this kills the cable. I > answer that in the last 20 years it did not kill one of mine. Maybe > because I dont make the knot it exactly the same spot each time... I found that the twist caused by winding on the arm can be resolved by moving the orientation (direction) of the cable on the arm every a 'few' winds. By reversing the orientation of the cable on the arm you alternately put in twists, and undo twists as you wind the cable. I too was taught to put a knot on the cables, I learned this in the 1970's working as a stage hand, and still rely on this method without damage to cables. bret __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com