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> So your definition of pro or non-pro is entirely based on the economics. Yes! > Which would make somebody living off welfare and at the same time trying > to get somebody interested in their entirely unprofessional art is a > professional, No--the welfare case isn't paying his bills from money derived from music-making activities. In a related case: Vincent van Gogh was never a professional painter. Bryan Beller: no, wasn't a professional musician until recently. Has existed in the semi-pro years since leaving college under my definition. Another related case: Philip Glass drove a taxi and installed kitchen appliances to pay the bills until the early 80's. TravisH On 10/16/05, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill <rs@moinlabs.de> wrote: > So your definition of pro or non-pro is entirely based on the economics. > Which would make somebody living off welfare and at the same time trying > to get somebody interested in their entirely unprofessional art is a > professional, while somebody like e.g. Bryan Beller (of Mike > Keneally/Beer for Dolphins, Z, Steve Vai, Mullmuzzler/Jamie LaBrie etc.) > isn't (or at least hasn't been until shortly). >