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On Oct 16, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > "Professional" is more related to occupational status, not artistic > merit. my friend James McCaskey, official recordist of the Suit & Tie Guy Band, recently wrote this definition of professional: Professional, adj. As done by, or containing, one whose skill is in appearing competent. Professional, n. One who is skilled in appearing competent. Example: "Unfortunately, this will be costly to finish. It looks like you were dealing with a bunch of professionals." maybe it related to this discussion, maybe not. i can't tell. --- Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com