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It's logical that Charles can't accept the effect to be an extension of "the instrument" since he is one of the first guys alert on OT mails ;-) ... All in one pack! The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Zwicky" <cazwicky@earthlink.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:04 PM Subject: Re: "Instrument" vs "Effect" > These systems in their entirety are often referred to as an instrument, > for instance Jimi Hendrix and his Marshalls, Jon Hassel and his > harmonizer... I think this discussion got of on the wrong foot by >claiming > that an effect was an instrument. This may be correct, Electro Harmonix >is > of the philosophy that their 16 second delay and 2880 are 'looping > instruments'. > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net >