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Word on the street is that if you want *the best* then the Axe-FX is the route to go: http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-fa-axefx.html I have no experience with them but the demos sound great: (even with youtube compression) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubu8A_wmmNI&fmt=18 The cost seems prohibitive to me, but if you've got the cash and want the best maybe it's worth it. I found my Vox Tonelab/VF-1 combo to be good enough for me, and Amplitube to be even better. One thing that sold me on the software route is that if I want to do something that's not possible in a hardware set up without a bunch of re-routing I can do it effortlessly and then call it up as a preset. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jeff Duke<jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote: > thanks Andy, > > but you did answer it really. It's funny but i recently compiled alot of >my > tunes for release on Bandcamp. I realized that the best (meaning my > favorite) sounds were all direct into the board recordings. i have used > whatever amp/speaker modelers I had in whatever fx box I was using at the > time. All the newer stuff was done while wearing headphones in a quiet > apartment. > I arrange it so that my chain is distortion/fuzz into amp modelers > (currently Digitech RP 250 and or Korg AX 3000G) into modfx/delay/reverb > into loopers into sometimes more mangle fx into mixer. Not the best way >but > there ya go. i stay stereo from the outputs of the multi fx boxes. i >really > want a proper mixer so that i can feed more of everything into everything > else sort of :) > All that said i still believe that a good real amp cranked up sounds >better. > I just can't do that anymore in real life. I guess it come down to good >tone > being subjective. I am always looking for "the" sound. hmmm, maybe this? > http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/DBS/ > > And your right about Bill Walker! He has the "tone"! > > First cup 'o coffee wearing off, gotta go get more! > > best, > > Jeff > > > Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck > > > http://jeffduke.org/ > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents > http://www.justin.tv/loopslab > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke > http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke > http://virb.com/jeffduke > http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ > http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 > http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:15 AM > Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY > > >> Jeff Duke wrote: >>>> >>>> Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, surely it would be neater >to >>>> put one amp sim between guitar and fx. >>> >>> What would you recommend in a stereo amp sim Andy? >>> >>> Jeff >>> >> >> Oh, I'm probably the worst person to ask about amp sims ;-) >> Ask Bill Walker. >> >> I only really started playing electric guitar when I started looping, >> and while I played bass through a nice valve setup for years I >eventually >> found that it just wouldn't reproduce the sort of playing I put into it. >> (i.e. I used to sometimes get quite a lot going at once, but wasn't >> willing to reduce the low frequency content of the sound.) >> >> Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything, and don't possess a decent amp >> sim. >> >> Currently I'm experimenting with a Moogerfooger Lo-pass to mellow >> out the fuzzy tones from my ADA MP1 valve pre. >> >> However, the raw fuzz/overdrive sounds I use sound ok to me, and it >seems >> also to the audience. Only knowledgeable guitarists have sometimes >> to worried that I have a flat battery somewhere ;-) >> >> Generally, I reckon that for a looping device, a clean full range sound >is >> preferable >> so that the layers can remain distinct in the mix. >> >> Hence I would always put an amp sim before the looper, rather than >after. >> Then it would be possible to build up a mix using different amp tones. >> >> My guess was that Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa speakers by putting a >> stereo >> amp sim (two SansAmps) just in front of them. >> It's a different approach...and I don't doubt he'd make it work. >> >> I'd say 'hope that helps', only as I didn't >> answer the question...... :-) >> >> andy >> >> >> >> > >