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RE: Looper Ergonomics for Sync (ref : Looperlative LP1)

I'm not sure I'm following this discussion, but a few comments on Mobius synchronization...

Tracks have a "Sync Source" that may be None, Track, Out, Host, Midi.  None means freewheeling.

Track means to sync with whatever track is currently the Track Sync Master.  The first track

you record automatically becomes the Track Sync Master.  Note that this isn't necessarily

track number 1, it is the first one of any number you record.  Once you have set the Track Sync Master

it can be changed any time with the Sync Master Track function and newly recorded tracks will follow

the new master.  This can be done with a footswitch or in a script. 

Loops within the Track Sync Master track are typically exact multiples of a common factor but they

don't have to be.  If you record a loop in the Track Sync Master track without using Loop Copy 

or some other method of exact copy the new loop will change the sync points for any newly recorded tracks.

Out is the same as Track except that in addition the first recorded track (not necessarily number 1)

also becomes the MIDI Sync Master and sends out MIDI clocks.  Once the MIDI Sync Master track

is set you can change it at any time with the Sync Master MIDI function.  Though the MIDI sync master

and Track sync master tracks are usually the same they don't have to be.  Changing the MIDI sync

master track also changes the tempo of the generated MIDI clocks so your external device will

also change tempo.

MIDI sync means to slave to incoming MIDI clocks.  A track slaving to MIDI clocks may also be

the Track Sync Master.  So you only need one track to follow MIDI clocks, and the others can

will follow that track.  Or you can have several tracks following the same MIDI clock.  The effect

is similar but there are some subtle differences.

Host sync means to slave to VST/AU host pulses and is mostly the same as MIDI.

Track Sync isn't really continuous synchronization like MIDI and Host where we have to make

periodic adjustments to account for clock drift.  It is mostly just quantization

of the start and end times.   Once a track has been recorded it just runs and since it will

always be an exact multiple of the master track and there is no timing jitter it essentially

freewheels but it will always stay in sync with the master track.  The only time the selected

Track Sync Master track matters after recording is if you use Realign. 


From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 5:09 AM
To: Loopers-Delight
Subject: Re: Looper Ergonomics for Sync (ref : Looperlative LP1)

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:53 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
So, question is:
Is there any reason someone would need to start on some track other than track 1?
( and does that apply if you're not using Mobius? )

Good question! I can't imagine why you would want to start on a different track than the first on other loopers than Mobius. 

But with Mobius there is one reason: Scripting; you may want to run scripts that fill up several tracks in one go and then your idea of a nice and tidy workspace may call for a different start-out track than #1.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen