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Re: Boomerang survey - please respond

Holding [LOOP START] is interesting, but I need the option of having AUTO 
STACK as the default.
The idea of holding [LOOP END] is also interesting and I picture that as 

Minimum requirements for AUTO STACK to be useful to me
— foot location doesn’t need to move (excludes Method #4)
— Bro-sync slaves can [AUTO STACK] by default
I have 2 Rangs bro-synced, each with a SideCar. I would like the option of 
the SLAVE entering [AUTO STACK], which requires it either being 
default-able or a message being broadcasted over bro-sync.

I believe we can please everyone, but it would cost 2 toggle spots.
There are 4 different combinations which can be accomplished with 2 
1) Default [LOOP END] behavior ([LOOP START] tap)
-Normal or 
— if MOMENTARY STACK is on, this will stack while [LOOP END] is held down

2) Alternate [LOOP END] behavior ([LOOP START] hold)
-Enabled or 
Holding [LOOP START] will engage the opposite behavior of 1

Toggle #1 seems absolutely necessary to me, and I’d have it always on 
Auto-stack, of course.
I’d prefer toggle #2 Disabled, but I could probably live with it being 
fixed at either value.


On May 21, 2014, at 1:53, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:

> On May 20, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Jason Fistner <jfis.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I’m so excited that Mike et al. are finally considering this!!!!
>> In sum:
>> Method #3
>> More detailed:
>> Let’s first look at some reasons for wanting to enter [STACK/ OVERDUB 
>> MODE] mode immediately at [LOOP END]:
>> a) Flow
>> - as us loopers know, it’s crucial to keep things moving and changing— 
>> especially at the beginning! most people do not have our tolerance for 
>> repetition. 
>> b) Signal Smoothness
>> - hard cuts on delay and reverb trails reveal the seams and can take a 
>> listener out of it
>> c) Volume/ dynamics smoothness
>> - sometimes by the end of the loop, especially in long loops, the 
>> volume of what is being played at the end doesn’t match what it was at 
>> the start (inadvertently, by some psychological magic :D ). going right 
>> into [STACK] mode can smooth this out.
> I think these correspond to my two categories with (a) being the first — 
> I just want to start evolving the loop immediately — and (b) and (c) 
> being the need to get some overlap at the end to smooth out the 
> transition or deal with delay and reverb trails. I argue that in the 
> latter case, it’s actually inconvenient to need to tap a switch again 
> when done — though not nearly as inconvenient as the tap dance the 
> Boomerang III currently requires to go straight into STACK. I would also 
> argue that in the first case, you know that’s what you will be doing. 
> That’s why I liked the idea of being able to use a hold at the beginning 
> of the loop to indicate a desire to go into stack when done recording — 
> i.e., Press (Start Recording) - Hold - Release - Press (Start Stacking) 
> — and a hold at the end of the loop to generate an overlap without 
> remaining in stack — i.e., Press (Start Recording ) - Release - Press 
> (End Recording, Start Stacking w/o Decay) - Release (End Stacking, Start 
> Playing). If you hold at both ends of the loop, there just need to be a 
> decision as to whether the “go into stack” behavior holds or whether the 
> “momentary stack” behavior holds.
> Mark