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Chuck Zwicky: > This device has a LONG way to go before it could be very useful to anyone >here. This _sounds_ like an exaggeration. It sounds like the DOD Dimension 12's _delay_ mode is quite similar to the Jamman's _delay_ mode, which is pretty much the only way I use the Jamman because of the limited resolution of the feedback setting in its other modes and its poor design for sustained overdubbing (in loop modes, when you lay down the initial the first layer, you're booted out-- it doesn't automatically switch to overdubbing; and if you're overdubbing and switch loops, it drops out of overdubbing). The ability to set the delay time directly (which I know the Jamman can't do directly, and I've never heard any evidence that the Echoplex can do) seems like a useful bonus. This is not to say that everyone on this list can live without the "missing" features. And certainly you might be paying for a lot of sampling features you would never use. Sean