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RE: Looping: I have no idea what "multiply" is, but everything else and more....yes. I will show you in Boise. We can hang with Rick Walker and go over this stuff. I am currently using a looper that is set-up a little differently, maybe I will have my new one ready by then.... The VST object, as I said, allows you to host VST plugins....you can arrange these as you want, BUT the cool thing is to intermix with your own manglers/creations. Not being a programmer, I thought I would never get into, but I have...it is fun. BTW, I was privvy to a private demo of hipno stuff with the webcam.....very hip stuff! Especially cool after a couple of Choir Boys (2 oz grey goose over ice, splash of soda, twist of lime)...frequency specific granulation....d00000d.... Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com On Mar 28, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Kris Hartung wrote: > Hi Jeff - I am a fervant fan of Cycling '74. I have Pluggo, which has > some amazing tone mangling and standard VST effects, and I plan to buy > Hipno soon, which will allow me to morph my effects and parameters > with a wave of my had over a motion sensor webcam. > > Now I am intrigued by Max/MSP. The routing seems great, and sort of > reminds me of what I can do in EnergyXT, my VST host program. Now, > what I am more curious about it what type of looping you can do with > it. What looping tricks can you do? Can you do things like Multiply, > Reverse, half-speed, double-speed, overdub, next loop, etc (sorry for > the EDP terminology). > > Kris > > > hi luca, > > I don't want to be redundant with our private emails: but I thought it > worth repeating for the list.....This is one of the reasons I went with > Max/MSP....big time flexibility of routing. Inside the max/MSP > environment you can freely route/reroute audio paths/controller paths > all over the place, making it perfect for hybrid rigs of laptop and > other hardware, or pure software. And so many of the guys onboard > Cycling 74 (I think all of them) are musicians....at least the ones I > know personally: Andrew Pask, Gregory Taylor, Ben Nevile. > best regards, > Jeff > > > > Jeff Kaiser > http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com > pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com > > On Mar 28, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Luca Formentini wrote: > >> even if I am really surprised by music industry underconsideration >> conceirning control capabilities, I have been analyzing audio >> converters' internal audio routing/splitting/mixing capabilities for >> 2 years now. >> I use switchblades since many years but, given the growing >> availability of digital connections on processing hw and the shift >> from just hardware to mixed setups composed by hw and sw, I think >> that audio interfaces offer a convenient solution to do this kind of >> complex audio spaghetti. >> The problem resides in the midi implementation offered by their >> manufacturers. None of them ( Rme said that officially and Motu by >> the mouth of their italian importer) care about making this objects >> flexible hearts for evoluted signal routing. >> The most stupid thing is that they all have what they need, it's just >> a matter of control so, like a famous italian commercial says "power >> is nothing without control". >> It's a shame, once again it looks like there are no musicians in the >> manifacturers' teams. >> best, >> luca >> www.unguitar.com > >