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Yup, I agree, it is a bummer about the control protocol....there has got to be a way to get around that to route midi to CueMix or totalmix somehow, I just haven't tried, maybe that will be a weekend project....or summer project.... best, Jeff Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com On Mar 28, 2006, at 1:04 PM, Luca Formentini wrote: > Hi Jeff, > I am absolutely in tune with you and I'm sorry if I've been unclear. > I was referring to the poor facts I am discovering during the last > days, seeing how many sw/hw producers are softly sitting on really > cheap solutions ( like using the mackie control protocol) instead of > uptodate open midi structures. > max/MSP is a great sw and will be the first I will try to install ( > the others on the list are audiomulch and reaktor) on my sw looping > setup but I was referring to the converter's native sw mixer (see > Rme's totalmix and Motu's one). > If they just tried to make one step more we would have wonderful power > available in many audio cards, residing in their internal sw. > I get crazy when m.i. producers stop their development just one step > before the available potential. > Thanks again for your kind care, > best, > Luca > > Jeff Kaiser wrote: > >> hi luca, >> >> I don't want to be redundant with our private emails: but I thought >> it worth repeating for the list.....This is one of the reasons I went >> with Max/MSP....big time flexibility of routing. Inside the max/MSP >> environment you can freely route/reroute audio paths/controller paths >> all over the place, making it perfect for hybrid rigs of laptop and >> other hardware, or pure software. And so many of the guys onboard >> Cycling 74 (I think all of them) are musicians....at least the ones I >> know personally: Andrew Pask, Gregory Taylor, Ben Nevile. >> best regards, >> Jeff >> >> >> >> Jeff Kaiser >> http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com >> pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com >> >> On Mar 28, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Luca Formentini wrote: >> >>> even if I am really surprised by music industry underconsideration >>> conceirning control capabilities, I have been analyzing audio >>> converters' internal audio routing/splitting/mixing capabilities for >>> 2 years now. >>> I use switchblades since many years but, given the growing >>> availability of digital connections on processing hw and the shift >>> from just hardware to mixed setups composed by hw and sw, I think >>> that audio interfaces offer a convenient solution to do this kind of >>> complex audio spaghetti. >>> The problem resides in the midi implementation offered by their >>> manufacturers. None of them ( Rme said that officially and Motu by >>> the mouth of their italian importer) care about making this objects >>> flexible hearts for evoluted signal routing. >>> The most stupid thing is that they all have what they need, it's >>> just a matter of control so, like a famous italian commercial says >>> "power is nothing without control". >>> It's a shame, once again it looks like there are no musicians in the >>> manifacturers' teams. >>> best, >>> luca >>> www.unguitar.com >> >> >> . >> >