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Andy, Yes, of course in the latest version of the plug-in both the Quant state and the Subcycles params are available to the host as plug-in params and accessible in the Ableton "MIDI learn" state. And that's great if you want to access Quant state as a continuous control (attractive IMO, only 5 settings), and the Subcycles values as a continuous control (not so attractive, 127 possible settings, only a handful of which may be interesting at any given time). I can set the CC range to a single value, say 16 for both min and max, and can thereby call ONE value with the push of a button. But to go from there to say 32 or 8 or 4 or 127 directly does not appear to be possible. Only a single instance of the Sybcycle param is available, so assigning different values to multiple instances is not possible. And as we've already mentioned, direct access to a preset (for this example, a preset bank containing various saved Subcycle settings) within a bank does not seem to be possible either, whether via the host or direct MIDI. Am I missing something here? Best, Phil :) On Mar 4, 2012, at 12:56 PM, andy butler wrote: > Phil Clevenger wrote: > >> Finally, I have found no way to access those presets via MIDI to change >> them on the fly. > > That's something the host would do. > > I don't know if Echoloop will respond directly if the midi commands are > sent straight to it. It might. > >> I do this easily with the EDP, for instance, to change quantize >> settings (saved presets with different Quant settings), but does not >> seem available in the VST plugin. > > Those settings are made available to the host as parameters. > > andy > > >> Phil :) >