RE: "Mainly Vocal" looping performances: help in deciding which tools

[Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com>]

Hallo Andy...

I understand what you mean.

I just think that also the Vox one may be outgrow  extremely soon.

But eventually if it will be too difficult of expensive to get a Rang II here, I will try out that one in Thomann.de and give it back if I do not like it (30 days of time :) )

 Sergio

> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:55:02 +0100
> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: "Mainly Vocal" looping performances: help in deciding which tools
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> Sergio G wrote:
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> > *Andy:*
> > - I saw the Vox one, not tried anyway. I think I need more than 2
> > parallel loops anyway if possible and I am a bit scared about the 90 sec
> > limitation.
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> hi Sergio,
> what you're imagining is a pretty complex setup.
> ( more like the guys who use software to loop)
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> You'll hear some very complex arrangements by live looping artists
> if you listen around a bit, and the first guess would be that you
> need multiple loops to achieve that.
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> However that's not the case, it more depends on how controllable
> the loops are.
> For instance, I use the EDP (no longer in production) which only
> plays back one loop at a time, but listening you'll hear tracks
> dropping in and out fairly extensively.
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> Truth is, it's not likely your going to *buy* your ideal setup
> and loop with it right away. If you want to do it with separate
> loops for each element then it's going mean you'll have to work
> out how to control groups of loops.
> You could do it with software,
> you could do it with the looperlative LP1(if you can get one),
> but either way the "maths" of controlling them fluently isn't done for you.
> Expect to put in some hours doing setup on a regular basis.
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> It's not just having the gear, it's getting a feel for using it,
> ....it needs practise, just like an instrument.
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> That's why it's already been suggested you start out with a simple
> loop device, and work with it to get the most out of it.
> Then you get to know how it all works...and you'll get "good at it".
> You'll also quite likely find that your music can develop in new
> ways as you experiment with what your loop device is capable
> of (or by working round what it can't do).
> I think I'm fairly safe in saying that's how everybody here did it.
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> All that being said, yes the Boomerang III looks like a really good
> choice. I can't imagine you'd be disappointed.
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> The Vox VDL-1, apart from two separate loops, has an Undo/Redo
> function which lets you bring a group of layers in and out.
> If you think about it, you can make that sound like you have 4 loops,
> each with multiple overdubs (...well you *could*).
> If you wanted to go the "get something cheap and try it out" route
> then it's way more sophisticated than the other cheap devices.
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> Something like the Boss RC-2 or Digitec JamMan are just so basic
> I think you'd outgrow them in about a day :-)
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> andy butler
> www.andybutler.com/mp3.htm
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